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Political: obama appointments,good or pure arrogance?


by dblbogey2 January 9, 2013 11:04 AM


Pure arrogance and the gloves are off. He is going to move fast to push his agenda before he is rendered impotent by the label of lame duck. The do nothing senate will protect him and hopefully the House can limit the amount of damage his administration is determined to perpetuate on western civilization.
by lil_oh_me January 9, 2013 11:16 AM


You win the election, you get to appoint the people you want in charge. Just one of many things a person should consider when filling out a ballot.

by YATI January 9, 2013 11:30 AM


Elections have consequences
He can appoint a ham sandwich for all I care

by Sooner Nation January 9, 2013 11:33 AM


Good point Sooner.

HOOOORAYY!! We won!

Now we get to FXXX up the country all we want!




by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 11:40 AM


Anyone care to speculate how the 2014 elections will go.

I'm not the best political fortune teller.

I'm guessing the voter turnout will not go as well for democrats in a mid-term as it did last for November's presidential.

If Obama starts to play his hand early will it stir the republican base for 2014?
by you started it January 9, 2013 12:02 PM


@Fire:
Unfortunately that's the system!
We don't have a Clinton in office we have Obama
The country faced the same decision we did last November when Kerry went up vs Bush
Romney had NO CHANCE
We are at the point where people are voting not for what they can get but against the fear of what the other guy will take (status quo)
The last election was against our long term interest to satisfy a prolonged quick fix
Whether Romney was the solution to our fiscal issues or not, the election NEVER addressed what was behind door number three
The 800 pound gorilla (growth) is eerily missing from all the solutions regarding the budget "and when it is brought in it's completely overstated"
JOBS JOBS JOBS!!!!
by Sooner Nation January 9, 2013 12:05 PM


Lets see...

What can Obama accomplish before he's done?

Continue to run up debt as quickly as possible while avoid doing ANYTHING of a serious nature regarding the non-sustainable entitlement spending.

Take steps to tax producers more...thats a double win...it restricts enconomic growth and helps further drive a wedge between the so-called classes.

Obama care kicks in so that payroll taxes get raised on most workers and we can start to diminish the quality of our health care while making basic proceures less readily available (another double win there!)

In the coming 4 years, Obama can continue his assult on our national defense...racing toward mediocrity at best. (Hmmm...thats one of the things the federal government is actually SUPPOSED to be doing)

Despite the frustrating progress shown with fracking (which has helped keep fuel costs much lower than they would otherwise be), keep trying to limit growth in the oil, coal, natural gas and nuclear energy sectors.

Continue to expand the federal government, of course, wherever and whenever possible (that goes without saying).

As deftly as possible, continue to allienate Israel (those arrogant Jews are on their own!).

Get as many liberal judges in place as possible...lets keep whacking away at that irksome constitution.

There's lots more to do, but that'll be a good start. You're right lil, Barack Hussein is absolutely determined to wreak havoc on us.


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Meanwhile, our conservative representitives should remember that they are charged with defending the constitution and protecting us from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Uh....HELLOOOOOOO...liberals are domestic enemies of the state. Treat them as such.

by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 12:11 PM


Liberals are not domestic enemies and to call someone as such diminishes an opportunity to move the ball! Most of what the country needs is an opportunity to RELEARN how to talk to one another
For some reason the Congress now is Hatfield / McCoy like with no end in sight
I personally despise most Liberal Ideology but realized a long time ago that we are linked to the other point of view so why not give a little to get what we want?
Taxes are a ridiculous argument when the rich can afford attorney's to not pay them but the Republicans in Congress lose the argument because they're too damned ideological (stupid) to get something in return
Obama played the Fiscal Cliff unbelievably well
He got Boehner to sign off on the RATE INCREASE and now has to redebate the loophole nonsense which he was for during the elections?
Obama will get the loophole restrictions and a tax increase (Bravo)
It's a messaging issue that the Liberals are killing the Repubs with and until we get someone that resonates with more than the aging white male we will just watch the Dems laugh all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania
by Sooner Nation January 9, 2013 1:26 PM


Sooner. You are lauding the "accomplishments" of Obama and liberals for playing politics well. It doesn't matter, I suppose, that is is clearly to the detriment of the country. What does that tell you? They are wrapped up in gaining political victories and care not a whit about their country. That should make them proud.

Compromise is not what is called for here. Not now.

by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 1:41 PM


I also lauded the Aggies for KICKING our ass at the Cotton Bowl
It makes us better

The Liberals care equally as much about the country within their own views of what makes it great
The argument that "they don't" immediately eliminates you from dialogue from 50% of the Nation?
No way you'll win the seats needed to make change with that process
Compromise is the ONLY THING that will work so the other side of the prism isn't blinded to our ideology
The 2010 House massacre is proof of that

by Sooner Nation January 9, 2013 1:56 PM


You're wrong sooner. It takes leadership and resolve. The libs are beyond being "compromised" with. If they believe higher taxes, less energy development, a weaker military, and increased entitlement spending, and skyrocketing national debt is the solution for success in America, then there is really no starting point. What is the tactic? "We'll agree to fxxx up the country halfway, but not ALL the way!?"

"We'll agree to plan for our demise in 20 years, but not in 10 years!?"

Nonsense.

by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 2:29 PM


You're preaching to the choir

However you're contradicting yourself
Higher taxes offset the spending (sort of)
Regarding "leadership"
We aren't leading in anything and with the country FIRMLY at more than 50% against the current ideological brand (Repub) how are you going to gain seats?
You can't resolve a thing as a minority except obfuscation-ism
The Military needs a serious overhaul! Get rid of the large footprint and bring the bases to a minimum abroad
I'm pretty sure Japan is an ally now!


by Sooner Nation January 9, 2013 3:00 PM


Higher taxes don't offset spending enough to make a real difference. In this economy, its counter productive. The best way to raise revenue is with many millions more workers paying taxes instead of sitting around suckling.

I agree that the military needs an overhaul of sorts...but that would require serious thought and long term planning. Something in short supply in Washington. They'll end up settling for just cutting for cutting sake.

Again, regarding the leadership thing, the right messenger going to the American people without all the double speak and bullshxx can make the case for fiscal sanity. Take the gloves off and call things what they are. Expose liberals for the lying, canniving jackals they truly are.

by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 3:39 PM


Nothing is going to change except the people on the dole are growing at a faster pace than any time in history guaranteeing a majority voting block for the Democratic party.

Passing Obamacare was the straw that broke the camel's back. There is no turning back at this point. We weither choose to provide for the others, or we choose to live off the others, it's just that simple folks.

I've been watching alot of preppers lately. Even though NatGeo tries in earnest to make them all look batshit crazy, I find alot of useful info there and realize how ill prepared I am should things go badly. I'm looking at property this spring up north of Charlotte here in the spring, hopefully I find find something with a natural spring or well, gas/oil would be nice too..

by Booth January 9, 2013 4:40 PM


FFE,

Is there not one liberal driven policy that you can look at in hind sight and say, "I'm glad that happened"?

I think we need accross the board spending cuts and increased taxes to solve the problem. No way that is going to happen in todays political environment. It's all about the last poll or coming election now, and nothing gets done.


by YATI January 9, 2013 4:42 PM


Is there not one liberal driven policy that you can look at in hind sight and say, "I'm glad that happened"?

by YATI January 9, 2013 4:42 PM


Not lately.

by Fire for Effect January 9, 2013 5:07 PM


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