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Political: The actual Fluke testimony

It's short, and I'm posting it only so that several misconceptions being bandied around can be refuted.

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by Fredpa1 March 6, 2012 12:49 PM


It seems a lot more ridiculous when read in print.
by adelphos March 6, 2012 12:59 PM


that dirtly little .....


by LOANMAN March 6, 2012 1:01 PM



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she's an activist...and a carefully chosen plant...the war against religion is playing out before our eyes...to be replaced by? The belief in Government




by Dr. Branker March 6, 2012 1:03 PM


When print is shown in CAPS, it implies yelling. When print is show in bold, does that mean she was speaking in a lower, Kathleen Turner voice?
by The Tolerant Educator March 6, 2012 1:09 PM


So, I read the transcript. How would that change my opinion that religious institutions should not be forced by the government to provide contraception coverage?

Aren't all the libs pro-choice? Here's a choice: go to a college that provides contraceptive coverage. Problem solved.
by rspringer March 6, 2012 1:09 PM


"One student told us that she knew birth control wasnít covered, and she assumed thatís how Georgetownís insurance handled all of womenís sexual healthcare, so when she was raped, she didnít go to the doctor even to be examined or tested for sexually transmitted infections because she thought insurance wasnít going to cover something like that, something that was related to a womanís reproductive health."

Come on! These are supposedly intelligent law school students and we are supposed to believe that a woman thought that a rape exam wouldn't be covered because the school's health insurance didn't provide free contraception? Somebody is either lying, or they need to raise their standards for admission. No sentient being could be that lame.
by adelphos March 6, 2012 1:10 PM


"In the media lately, conservative Catholic organizations have been asking: what did we expect when we enrolled at a Catholic school? We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally, to not have our school create untenable burdens that impede our academic success."

This is at the very least misleading, if not an outright lie. The fact is that Ms. Fluke knew what the policy of the school was before she enrolled, and one of her primary reasons for choosing that school was to be an activist seeking to change the policy. She is pretending that the policy caught her by surprise when in fact her opposition to the policy is precisely why she chose to go there. We are supposed to ignore the religious freedom guaranteed in the constitution so that people can avoid paying $9 a month out of their own pockets?
by adelphos March 6, 2012 1:20 PM


adelphos

I think she's more trying to say that the policy caught others offguard..


by LOANMAN March 6, 2012 1:37 PM


You may be right, but I don't think so. The plain meaning of her words, by using "we", is that she was among the group of people caught offguard. She knows she would not have gotten as much sympathy if it had been known that she was an activist who put herself in the middle of this in order to try to force this change.
by adelphos March 6, 2012 1:43 PM


"We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally"


Question: Does Georgetown distribute free condoms to men? If so, she has a point. If not, then they are treated equally and she's all wet (insert funny sex joke here).




by rspringer March 6, 2012 2:20 PM


Does any group insurance pay for the pill?


Just think when Obama is re-elected a month's worth of the pill will be less than a gallon of gas or two pink slime burgers from micky d.
by dead eye March 6, 2012 2:41 PM


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I have a hard time believing that many struggle with the cost of birth control. Textbooks must cost a fortune. Housing must cost a fortune. Tuition is unreal. Cost of a box of rubbers at Walmart $11 Click Here
What is the BFD?
by Snapper March 6, 2012 3:06 PM


What's really needed is to find these roving bands of employers and schools who drag women off the street - literally Shanghaiing them into working for them and attending their institutions of higher learning under these conditions.

I also love how this is being characterized repeatedly as an "access" issue, when it is actually an "access at someone else's expense" issue.


by MichiganTed March 6, 2012 3:28 PM


Big f'ing YAWN
by VanbytheRiver March 6, 2012 3:37 PM


Prescription birth control pills are just $9 a month at Walmart pharmacy. 2 lattes at Starbucks? 2 gallons of gas? That burden is so onerous that we need to just suspend freedom of religion and freedom of conscience?
by adelphos March 6, 2012 3:46 PM


I also love how this is being characterized repeatedly as an "access" issue, when it is actually an "access at someone else's expense" issue.


by MichiganTed March 6, 2012 3:28 PM
Ted, since 75% of the Counties give free pills etc so we are already paying for it. The issue is the government forcing this on religious organizations that oppose part if not all of the mandate.
by dead eye March 6, 2012 3:48 PM


Nice try Fredpa---
by That's funny! March 6, 2012 4:08 PM


Fred,

Did you stop watching Bill Maher when he called Palin and other republican worse than what Rush said? Or did he get a free pass?



by YATI March 6, 2012 4:27 PM



I also love how this is being characterized repeatedly as an "access" issue, when it is actually an "access at someone else's expense" issue.


by MichiganTed March 6, 2012 3:28 PM




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by Rock Bottom March 6, 2012 4:52 PM


Snapper,

Are you getting paid by Lifestyles? Take a page from Rush and learn how to get endorsements buddy.

TTE
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by The Tolerant Educator March 6, 2012 5:47 PM


TTE

Funny, thats exactly what the pill popper is doing right now, trying to fill in the blank

33 now have dropped him
by Unfair and Imbalanced March 6, 2012 7:00 PM


That's Funny,

nice try?

Depressing. I just don't know where to start. I suppose I could go thru each fallacy, but really what's the point?

Either they don't read, or have no reading comprehension skills. Or the fact of her testimony does not matter to their preconceived opinions provided by this rabid right wing invading the republican party.

And for you Yati, you having a daughter, I would hope you would disavow the filth uttered by Limbaugh. And, ask your wife and daughter about why birth control is used for reasons other than contreception.

God help you and yours if should one of them have that type of problem.
by Fredpa1 March 6, 2012 8:38 PM


Believe it or not there are still people who swear by the "rhythm method".









I have a name for these people it is "pregnant".



by Vinnie The Leg Breaker March 6, 2012 10:32 PM


Fredpa,

She did not testify before Congress. She made a statement before Some Democrats gathered by Nancy. This ploy and that's all it is, is to take the heat off Obamma and his attack on religious freedom.

The debate is about religious freedom, not banning contraceptives. No one wants to ban them.


by dead eye March 7, 2012 6:35 AM


Fred,

I do think Rush was way out of line. I want to know why your side gives Maher a free pass to say worse things.

I don't need to ask my wife or daughter about all the reasons for using birth control. I knew them by the time I was 12. That's when my mother had to go on the pill for medical reasons.
by YATI March 7, 2012 9:18 AM


yati : I want to know why your side gives Maher a free pass to say worse things.

when there's no answer,there's no answer.

libs are so far in denial for this situation
be it maher,sister frank,franken and others, they go silent.same for pipeline type issues;reasoning goes to environmental issues, not what's good in the short term until viable green energy are ready.

as for ms fluke,she's being used politically,nothing else.after nov,he won't
know her name.


by dblbogey2 March 7, 2012 11:33 AM


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